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The Apocalypse - Pt 3

November 21st, 2008, 11:00 am

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Reply RyanMC, November 21st, 2008, 7:25 am

Nack's the type of guy who likes to maximize his cash flow.

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User's Comments:

Reply Kris the Demon, November 21st, 2008, 12:24 pm

Yes but not all will go to such lengths as Nack does.

Reply Scipio (Guest), November 21st, 2008, 2:19 pm

Lets see I killed Mother Brain, Ridely, Kraid(he would take credit for killing them if it would get him more money), the X-Parisite Queen, Samus Aran, Duo(mabye).

Reply Unclever title (Guest), November 21st, 2008, 2:45 pm

Black Bounties? I'm assuming Black Market Bounties?

Reply Angel85, November 21st, 2008, 3:47 pm

wow, they actually call it the apocalypse cannon? They make it seem like a momentary technological task, but destroying a planet is a tough objective. Planets are nearly indestructible, even one the size of the earth, remember our world survived a collision with a planetoid bigger than Mars about 4.5 billion years ago, and came out of it with a brand new moon! even if all you want to do is sterilize a planet, you'd basically have to destroy the entire crust up to a depth of nearly 5 miles to make sure you get everything, including the bacteria that live in the deep crust.

Reply CursedBluto, November 21st, 2008, 4:09 pm

What about siphoning out all resources that could sustain threatening life? Wouldn't that be more efficient, since it could then be used for luxury elsewhere?

Reply Sean (Guest), November 21st, 2008, 5:11 pm

They could simply INCINERATE the atmosphere by starting a big enough fusion reaction. It would be fed off the loose hydrogen in the atmosphere and the hydrogen realleased by the vaporized water. So it would keep going until all the hydrogen had been fused into helium. Leaving the planet an airless rock. On a lighter note I got Red Alert 3 yesterday. It's AWESOME. *jedi mind trick* You WILL get Red Alert 3. You WILL agree that it is AWESOME.

Reply Brain Boy, November 21st, 2008, 8:08 pm

Somebody said something about a giant planetoid-on-planet collision, i disagree. The moon was already there, look it up in the bible. I think if a giant mass of rock fell to earth, we'd be going...

Reply Sonow, November 21st, 2008, 9:14 pm

Ah yes... The bible. Made from the same guys who think there were never any dinosaurs, and think some old guy managed to round up 2 of EVERY ANIMAL in existance on a boat ride, doesnt beleive in evolution-

Ok, this rant can go on into it's OWN bible.

So can the moon idea though. I dont doubt it that the Earth can survive a planet-on-planet collision, but I dont recal the evidence of seeing massivly contrasted rock types from the origonal earth side, and the section were the forjein planet impacted us. But then again, that happened when Earth was a big ball of lava and smoke.
Though I DO remember the evidence of the moon's rocks similar to Earth's...
But alas, unlike Evolution, and what killed the dinosaurs, the moon's origin theory has yet to be proven fact.

But that's not all I wanted to say.

An armagedon beam, seems, 'no'. A mere devistating beam couldnt effectiently wipt out the entire planet's life sources. Neither could stealing all it's recourses, because the creative will find a resourse out of ANYTHING. 'Sides, that'll take too long, and the X paricite could fly... and stuff. Not to menchen, I dun think they even rely on recources...
I think the atmothphere incineration method wold work best. Moderately simple, effective, and fast. (Alas, I have heard this idea befor though... Kinda scary scientests have already found out how to do it... eeek... XD)

Reply Unclever title (Guest), November 21st, 2008, 11:13 pm

Evolution though having a lot of supporting evidence is not PROVEN, it's REALLY hard to prove something that involves that large a timescale and goes that far into the past, same goes with the dinosaurs death and the moon's origin theory.

Oh and Christians believe dinosaurs existed. It's kind of hard to deny ridiculously large skeletons there's no real reason to either. Anyway let's leave religious discussion out of this as we'll get several pages worth of nowhere fast.

Back on topic: Keep in mind that the creature they're trying to kill here traversed (assumedly) light-years in space without protection (If you consider the shell also to be a part of Lavos) and survived a large meteor style collision with the planet, sixties of millions of years in the past burrowing to probably the center of the planet, etc...

So siphoning resources? Nope.
Incinerating the atmosphere? Nein.
Destroying five miles down into the crust? Getting warmer, but still not enough.

Blowing the planet up seems to be the most logical course of action here actually. That or somehow flinging Lavos into the Sun.

In terms of defeating the Lavos-X specifically yes the above methods work, but Lavos is a sentient being that catalogues and modifies the DNA of the living creatures on the planets he "consumes" so he/it's probably had enough time to learn enough about the X-Parasites to make use of their abilities him/itself.

Also I guess Lavos could be female, but probably closer to asexual or hermaphroditic.

Reply ForteTh, November 22nd, 2008, 6:41 am

Actually all the beam has to do is pearce a whole in the planet down to the core and the pressure released would rip the planet apart.

Reply Corey, November 22nd, 2008, 8:26 am

Nothing is ever proven in science, so discussing that is kinda pointless. We can be 99.99999999999% sure, but we are never 100%. We have observed speciation though, and we have the fossil record, and we know that we can have beneficial mutations, and we have ring species, so all that puts it in the 99.9999999% category.

Even laws are not necessarily proven; see Newtonian gravity. Einstein had to add some stuff because it didn't always work.

As for the Christian/dino thing, whether or not they believe in dinosaurs entirely depends on whether they're sane or not. Some even believe in evolution, and think that Genesis was metaphorical. Others... they're flat earthers and geocentrists, think dinos were planted by Satan, etc. Of course, this isn't a solely Christian thing, every religion has its crazies.

Reply Angel85, November 22nd, 2008, 10:43 am

It seems I did not adequately explain the moon formation theory. 4.5 billion years ago earth was the end of the solar system's bombardment period, earth had nearly reached its current size, but another planetoid had formed in nearly the same orbit, possibly in one of the Lagrange points, the two worlds were inexorably drawn together, and when they collided, all hell broke loose, the second world's core impacted earth's crust within hours, and a large portion of the crust and mantle were flung into space (note, this effects the moon's composition, most of the heavy metals could not stay in orbit and sank into the "new" Earth's core, leaving mostly lighter silicates to form our moon.) This theory explains why the moon has a low density, and the fact that its orbit doesn't precisely line up with Earth's equator. Bombardment continued for a few hundred million years longer, but no other impacts of that magnitude happened again, and by the way, life formed on our planet AFTER this massive event of course, but any biosphere that existed on either world before the event would have been sterilized.

Like I said, a planet is nearly impossible to break, but you could destroy its biosphere if you smacked a second one into it.

Reply MIssingnoleader (Guest), November 22nd, 2008, 3:55 pm

"But the future refused to change"

Reply CursedBluto, November 22nd, 2008, 10:26 pm

Orpheus Theory aside, what about adding dense particles to the planet until it became a black hole, or as has been suggested already, sending the whole planet into the nearest star?

Reply Unclever title (Guest), November 22nd, 2008, 11:56 pm

To Corey: Again I personally think you're being a bit optimistic about it with that high a number, to me 70% seems more reasonable. But considering I'm no expert in the field I can't rightly say anything conclusive.

It's true that Evolution is pretty much our best scientific explanation for how the myriad species came to be though. Like you said science is ever changing and ever modifying so who knows what the future will bring? Well except for you time travelers.

Also don't forget that crazies aren't limited to religion either, the internet is dramatic proof of this. My main point here is more or less a request to not caricature my religion based on falsehoods. Thanks!

Reply Vinom the Yiffking (Guest), November 23rd, 2008, 12:26 pm

Mayhaps they use a simple micro-subatomic self sestaining fission reaction, quite simply something that destroys subatomic bonds in a chain reaction, something like the Dr. Device.

Reply SandBlaster3000 (Guest), November 23rd, 2008, 7:02 pm

Hmmm, I wonder if the Federation owns a Death Star of some sort...

Reply Namm_killazilla, November 23rd, 2008, 8:38 pm


You guys are diehard fans, alright.

There is a simpler way that someone has already suggested.

Push it into the Sun.


They all die. (Then again, most of them are already dead.)

Or you can throw it into a black hole!

Then again, that might not be safe for the throwers.

Reply Unclever title (Guest), November 23rd, 2008, 11:30 pm

Push a planet into the sun? Well yeah there are ways of modifying a planet's trajectory to fall into the sun, but a quick solution is what's necessary here, cause I'd bet Lavos is able to leave the planet if he really needs to, no my suggest was to somehow chuck just Lavos into the Sun maybe a few thousand cubic meters of dirt as well, but then that wouldn't be an Apocalypse Cannon now would it?

Reply Ud the Imp (Guest), November 24th, 2008, 8:54 am

BLACK Bounties? Sounds the like classification for really high level kills...

Reply Shike, November 24th, 2008, 3:23 pm

One problem with the whole "push the planet into the sun" theory

Do you have any idea how heavy planets are? It would require FAR less energy to fire a large, powerful beam into the core of the planet, and then fire a different beam designed to cause the core to overload.

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